John Laws Programme - 2UE - (31ST JULY, 2002)

TALKBACK CALLER - GREG TINGLE, COMMENTS REGARDING JERRY SPRINGER AND REALITY TELEVISION - 31ST JULY, 2002  

GREG TINGLE Ė MALE TALKBACK CALLER:

Hello John.

JOHN LAWS Ė PRESENTER:

Yeah.

GREG:

This is Greg Tingle speaking.How are you doing?

LAWS:

Iím okay, Greg.How are you?

GREG:

Iím very well thanks.

LAWS:

Good.

GREG:

This is actually the second time Iíve had the opportunity to speak to you.

LAWS:

Well, thatís wonderful.

GREG:

A couple of years ago I spoke to you when the Olympic Games were going on.

LAWS:

Yeah.

GREG:

Remember that?I gave you the story about the French-Greek connection and all that stuff happeningÖ

LAWS:

I do, I do remember.

GREG:

Thatís it.That was (indistinct).I was listening to the tape this morning.

LAWS:

Yeah, well that was a long time ago.Well, it was two years ago.

GREG:

A lotís happened since then.

LAWS:

A lot has happened since then.A lot of whales have gone under the Harbour Bridge since then.

GREG:

Amongst other things.

LAWS:

Yeah.

GREG:

I was listening to Bob Mansfield before, a very smart man.

LAWS:

Very smart man, very nice man too.

GREG:

And youíre actually speaking to former Telstra and Optus sales person of the month.

LAWS:

Really?

GREG:

Yeah, and can I say if I prefer one of those companies?

LAWS:

You can say whatever you like.

GREG:

I prefer Telstra.

LAWS:

Well, thatís good news.Can you tell me why you prefer Telstra?

GREG:

Yes.Because a lot people that have Ö you know, theyíve always been there, basically, and you know theyíre not going to disappear tomorrow.I mean, Iím from an IT background, the dot com-ers, and I mean they just disappear.You donít know whoís going to be around the next day, but we Ö

LAWS:

Well thatís very true, very true.Witness some of the activity of late, what youíre saying is quite right.

GREG:

Thatís right.And they run an excellent network as well.

LAWS:

Well, thatís all good news.Thank you very much for telling us that thatís your belief.

GREG:

Thatís right.And the reason Iíve called you this morning specifically, itís to talk to you about reality TV.

LAWS:

Yeah.

GREG:

Okay?Iím actually doing a course at TAFE at the moment, which is News, Media and Journalism and the assignment I have chosen is reality TV.

LAWS:

Why?

GREG:

Why?Because itís so controversial, and one of the titles of my assignment, Iíve called it Jerry Springer, Reality TV, Has He Gone Too Far?Murders Ė What Next?

LAWS:

Yeah, well, has he gone too far?

GREG:

I donít know and Iím not sure Iím qualified to actually say.I think he has gone a little bit too far but, I mean, I am not really the judge.Basically, I mean, people are going on there, theyíre getting their emotions all wound up.And, I mean, thereís been cases where less than twelve hours later youíve got, you know, a husband murdering the wife because their relations have been exposed to a nationwide audience.

LAWS:

Thatís right.But they do it, I mean, they voluntarily go there, idiots.

GREG:

Thatís true too.Thatís right.

LAWS:

But, I mean, youíve got to Ö your bust size would have a bigger number than your IQ to go on that show.

GREG:

I would suggest people had problems before they went on if theyíre going toÖ

LAWS:

I would suggest they have too (laughs).

GREG:

If theyíre going to air their dirty laundry before they go on TV, theyíve probably got big problems to start with.

LAWS:

Well, I would think that they would.And I think that in a way, Jerry Springer, who I have been told is a very nice man, I think he exacerbates the problem.I think he is totally irresponsible and I think the showís ridiculous and almost obscene, and I would be shocked if anybody for whom I had respect and regard told me that they watched it.

GREG:

Right.You feel that strongly about it?

LAWS:

I do.And I think itís tampering with peopleís emotions.

GREG:

It is.

LAWS:

And I think itís tampering with stupid peopleís emotions, which is even worse.

GREG:

Itís a money-spinner though, isnít it?Theyíve got a niche market there, itís made them a lot of money.

LAWS:

It probably has.

GREG:

Mind you, I mean, money can be a bad thing in this world as well.I mean, money and sometimes bad things going on in the world are closely related cousins.

LAWS:

Yeah, well thatís true.You know, money canít buy you friends.It buys you a very good class of enemy, however.

GREG:

(Laughs) Thatís true.I was Ö can I tell you about the reality TV shows I was originally going to cover?

LAWS:

If I were you, I would change your Masters Degree or whatever it is you do.

GREG:

What do you suggest I should do?

LAWS:

I donít know.But Ö well, I suppose thatís interesting enough.Okay, well quickly tell me about the other reality shows.

GREG:

All right.I was Ö at first I was going to do Temptation Island, which is basically just as controversial.

LAWS:

So, thatís where they expose some weak-minded individual to some sex siren?

GREG:

Let me give you the inside scoop on that show.There are people going on to that show which [sic] theyíre saying are couples, where they are not couples at all.That is a fact.Iím in the position to know these things, John.

LAWS:

Say that again?

GREG:

There are people going onto that show.

LAWS:

As couples and theyíre not couples?

GREG:

Who are positioned or presented as couples, but they are not couples at all.Theyíre going on there for the good old buck.

LAWS:

So, why am I not surprised to hear this?

GREG:

Because youíve been around for a long time and youíre a very smart man.

LAWS:

Not very smart, been around for a while though.

GREG:

(Laughs) Okay Ö I donít know.I was also interested, before I was looking at doing MTV WWFís Tough Enough.Thatís about the one where people audition to become professional wrestlers, okay?

LAWS:

(Laughs)

GREG:

I know, we all have a laugh about it, but do you know what I say?If it was so damned easy, everybody in the world would be a pro wrestler and weíd all be earning five millions dollars a year like The Rock and Hulk Hogan, wouldnít we?

LAWS:

Well, I suppose we would.I donít know, thatís another program I donít watch.I like the man who produces it, because heís quite honest and says its all BS.

GREG:

Vince McMahon?

LAWS:

Yeah.

GREG:

Smart man, one of the best marketers of all time.

LAWS:

Yeah, heís very clever.

GREG:

He runs a tight ship.

 

LAWS:

Yeah.And heís quite honest when he says the whole thingís a lot of Ö (laughs).

GREG:

Thatís right.And I think thatís why it more popular.Are you going to Melbourne for the show?I am.

LAWS:

No (laughs).

GREG:

They soldÖ

LAWS:

No.Iíve got more important things to do, Greg, like brush my teeth.

GREG:

I know you do.Yes, they broke a record, they sold around fifty-five thousand tickets.

LAWS:

Iím not surprised.

GREG:

In twenty-four hours.

LAWS:

Iím not surprised.

GREG:

Mate, itís good business isnít it?

LAWS:

Very clever.

GREG:

All right.Well, I know youíve got other people to speak to.

LAWS:

Well, it doesnít matter.Youíre a good talker, if you want to keep talking.

GREG:

(Laughs)The last time I spoke to you, I said, oh John, just another minute, John, please, you know, but I was absolutely Ö itís always a pleasure to speak to you, John.

LAWS:

Thatís very nice of you.Youíre a very polite young man.I hope you do well with whatever it is youíre going to do.

GREG:

Thank you very much.

LAWS:

Good to talk to you, Greg.

GREG:

Catch up again in the future.

LAWS:

Bye.

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LAWS:

Heís a nice young man, good communicator actually, good communicator, nice and friendly.

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